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Post by lol on Jan 11, 2015 2:41:01 GMT 10
Just to let you know. I joined OZ4 this morning right as an rcon said they IP banned chawlk. I just came back an hour later and he is back in again. Thought you would like to know.
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Post by {ØZ}ImBack on Jan 11, 2015 8:39:05 GMT 10
he not ip banned.... your misinformed
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Post by lol on Jan 11, 2015 9:01:29 GMT 10
I am just telling you I saw him in the server before I joinied. After I joined he was gone and the rcon going by new001 said he just IP banned him. Then Fed told him to make sure he posted the video. He said he would withing 15 minutes. So no, I am not misinformed. Check the logs yourself and see. Unless you don't want to be proved wrong, again.
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Post by lol on Jan 11, 2015 9:03:36 GMT 10
By the way. It would be "you're misinformed" if I were. Not "your" misinformed. Lol!
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Post by {ØZ}ImBack on Jan 11, 2015 11:53:43 GMT 10
lol my bad for my spelling.. noob
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Post by »ØZ«Fed on Jan 11, 2015 18:46:08 GMT 10
He was banned but after reviewing the video we determined that he was not botting. Therefore the ban was removed and he received an apology from the banning moderator.
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Post by {ØZ}ImBack on Jan 12, 2015 12:34:50 GMT 10
looks like you were misinformed
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Post by lol on Jan 12, 2015 14:27:27 GMT 10
Apparently you can't read Carlos. What a leader.
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Post by lol on Jan 12, 2015 15:24:52 GMT 10
Since you apparently didn't stick with your education long enough to learn to read, let me help you out. The rcon said he IP banned him, Fed confirmed he was banned. So the only one here who is unaware of what went on was you. Unbanned he was. But to be unbanned he had to be banned in the first place. So exactly where was I the one who was misinformed you blithering idiot. I told you what I read when I joined the server. I never claimed to have knowledge of what was done later.
Oh well, I'm sure you don't want the public knowing how petty and vindictive you are. So I imagine you will just delete my post like you did when I was a clan member. I just loved how you told me it was "well within your rights" when you did it and I questioned you about it. But later you said it was the other leaders and you were just carrying out their wishes. What a coward OZ has as a leader now. Very sad to see how far the clan has had to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 15:45:33 GMT 10
Apparently you can't read Carlos. What a leader. Lets not forget Fed's quick judgement to Ban Chalwk is a breach of the OZ Clan's Rules. If you bothered to read the rules Fed. When rconing you must be absolutely sure they are botting and to have Proper proof before you ban. Ify Biffy. Is Not Acceptable Fed. Maybe you guys need to have a check you Staff Members are up to the Task of Representing this Clan. Btw Love ya *Lol* Your a Real Inspiration to us all. Ty.
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Post by lol on Jan 12, 2015 16:30:05 GMT 10
Um, Fed was not the person who banned Chawlk. Fed told the rcon to make sure he posted the video for review. I believe it was a fairly new rcon that banned him. Fed and the new rcon did exactly what they were supposed to. The rcon posted the video, more senior rcons pointed out it was not sufficient to prove botting and they overturned the ban and even apologized. I do not think the rcon or Fed did anything wrong. Imback is only OZ member I have issue with. His leadership is more dictatorial than any good leader should be. I still trust the rest of the staff.
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Post by {ØZ}ImBack on Jan 12, 2015 18:20:30 GMT 10
lol.. boy simple statements anger both of you how amusing
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 18:38:33 GMT 10
Um, Fed was not the person who banned Chawlk. Fed told the rcon to make sure he posted the video for review. I believe it was a fairly new rcon that banned him. Fed and the new rcon did exactly what they were supposed to. The rcon posted the video, more senior rcons pointed out it was not sufficient to prove botting and they overturned the ban and even apologized. I do not think the rcon or Fed did anything wrong. Imback is only OZ member I have issue with. His leadership is more dictatorial than any good leader should be. I still trust the rest of the staff. Argh But there is where you are wrong sorry.
If it was a new rcon (trainee) like he says. Fed should of took control of it. Hence why in the olden days when Zulu, farmer and carlos were on a server I did nothing due to it was there job as being FULL rcons. Its ment to be the Observation part of the rcon training. You do not learn from just... copying commands...
My point being is there a reason for that rule... and Fed should of done that ban as per the rules... "which in the situation of a full rcon being in the server, they are meant to take control of the rconing". Sure if Fed lets the trainee do the blockers, team shooters and out of reach noobs it's fine cause there just kill commands they don't impact the server. But the bannings are the main reason for that rule. The Full rcons/staff member especially are meant to take control of the situation when its happening within their grasp. Fed should of been looking himself. It a Ban. It means something.
I have nothing against Fed. He seems like a nice guy but Staff NEED TO READ THE RULES and be updated with the protocols and what's to happen THe rules would be ages old now But IM SURE its still there hence... why i find this so ridiculous that OZ staff member don't even know there own rules and protocols.. As far as i'm concerned this is Fed's Ban.
Yes the apologies are made and everythings all good but... OZ needs to step up. Shouldn't of occurred to begin with.
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Post by «ÖWV»Mini on Jan 12, 2015 20:52:26 GMT 10
Um, Fed was not the person who banned Chawlk. Fed told the rcon to make sure he posted the video for review. I believe it was a fairly new rcon that banned him. Fed and the new rcon did exactly what they were supposed to. The rcon posted the video, more senior rcons pointed out it was not sufficient to prove botting and they overturned the ban and even apologized. I do not think the rcon or Fed did anything wrong. Imback is only OZ member I have issue with. His leadership is more dictatorial than any good leader should be. I still trust the rest of the staff. Argh But there is where you are wrong sorry.
If it was a new rcon (trainee) like he says. Fed should of took control of it. Hence why in the olden days when Zulu, farmer and carlos were on a server I did nothing due to it was there job as being FULL rcons. Its ment to be the Observation part of the rcon training. You do not learn from just... copying commands...
My point being is there a reason for that rule... and Fed should of done that ban as per the rules... "which in the situation of a full rcon being in the server, they are meant to take control of the rconing". Sure if Fed lets the trainee do the blockers, team shooters and out of reach noobs it's fine cause there just kill commands they don't impact the server. But the bannings are the main reason for that rule. The Full rcons/staff member especially are meant to take control of the situation when its happening within their grasp. Fed should of been looking himself. It a Ban. It means something.
I have nothing against Fed. He seems like a nice guy but Staff NEED TO READ THE RULES and be updated with the protocols and what's to happen THe rules would be ages old now But IM SURE its still there hence... why i find this so ridiculous that OZ staff member don't even know there own rules and protocols.. As far as i'm concerned this is Fed's Ban.
Yes the apologies are made and everythings all good but... OZ needs to step up. Shouldn't of occurred to begin with. This is probably not my place.... I'm a trainee Rcon.... We are not allowed to come on and rcon "undercover" so this would have been from a full rcon..... and with the trouble caused by chalwk I would say that it is fine.... the ban was lifted. with the new 1.10 patch, bot detectors do not work. and when 4 people say hes botting (I have had this happen with chalwk before) it sounds pretty convincing. Many members love ØZ because of the kind staff and non-excessive reconing..... and we try to uphold that... but we are all still human and we make mistakes.... just let it go, it doesn't involve you anyway.... if you were the one banned, then that is a different story. I'm sure Imback means no offence.... just after years of this kind of behaviour from people, one can find it annoying and want to just get it over with. Have a great day and enjoy ØZ Servers
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Post by »ØZ«Fed on Jan 12, 2015 21:04:13 GMT 10
Apparently you can't read Carlos. What a leader. Lets not forget Fed's quick judgement to Ban Chalwk is a breach of the OZ Clan's Rules. If you bothered to read the rules Fed. I could be offended by this but I won't be. There are a lot of other issues going on here that you are not aware of. You're welcome to contact me if you want to know exactly what happened but this public forum is not the place. It was not a newbie RCON who banned Chalwk. It is possible for any staff member to make a mistake, and we all take responsibility for this incident, which was resolved very quickly. This is the first incorrect aimbotting ban that I'm aware of for a long time, and OZ is embarrassed when things like this happen, but I don't believe this single incident is part of a big problem.
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